

Committed: The Ties that Bond
with Angella Dykstra
I'm a mom of three, a professional accountant, and an amateur photographer and writer. I am not a marriage expert. But my husband and I take "Til death do us part" seriously, and here I'll be sharing how we keep our marriage strong while we both do that insane work-life juggle.
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I was shuttling the kids around the other day when Pink’s song, “So What?” came on the radio. For those who haven’t heard it, Pink and her husband have split up. In the song she sings about spending all of her money so that he doesn’t get any of it. (It’s a really fun song to sing at the top of your lungs when you’re having a bad day. Or so I’ve heard.)
It got me to thinking about the divorce rate not only among celebrities, but among those of us who are mere mortals. From what I have seen, divorces can get pretty messy when it comes to the division of assets. Who gets what, who is paid what, who looks after who financially after all is said and done.
This is why many people draw up a prenuptial agreement before getting married.
Did we have one drawn up? Nope. Didn’t even make the radar. We have always said that we are in this marriage until forever, so making plans in the event that we were to divorce seems to contradict what we stand for as a couple. There are those that may say that we are dreaming, or foolish to not take “precautionary” measures, but eh. To each their own.
Besides, if you want to get practical about it, prenuptial agreements seem to make more sense if one partner is coming into the marriage with substantially more assets than the other partner. When we got married I was an articling student about to write my final exam. Matthew had graduated college the year before and was working his first job in the field he had been schooled in. Our “assets” consisted of a few random pieces of IKEA furniture and some mismatched dishes.
Everything that we have now is a result of the two of us working together for the past nine years to build a home for our family.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on this. Do you have a prenuptial agreement?
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We don’t.
The subject came up when we got engaged but we decided it wasn’t for us. For me, it didn’t seem logical when neither one of us had substantial assets. For him, he didn’t like the idea of a prenup because it implies inevitable failure (in his opinion.)
hillary | May 26th, 2009 at 2:58 pm
We don’t have a prenuptial agreement, but I wouldn’t have been opposed to one if the circumstances had called for it. For us, it wasn’t an issue because neither of us brought much in the way of assets to the marriage, and it is both of our feelings that anything that is earned during the marriage is the property of both parties. Obviously we plan to stay together forever and I am sure that will be the case, but if we were to get divorced I have total faith in Torsten as a person to know that he wouldn’t try to screw me over, and I would never do that to him either.
I don’t have a problem with prenups, though. I don’t think they have anything to do with planning to get divorced or anything like that. I think they fall into the same category as parents drawing up some sort of will that appoints guardianship of their children in case of the parents’ death. Parents don’t plan or expect to die while their children are still minors, but it still makes sense to have a plan in place.
I also think that a prenup can assure peace of mind if someone does bring assets into a relationship–it promises you that your fiance(e) is entering into the marriage for the right reasons. You know?
Jess | May 26th, 2009 at 3:03 pm
Jess - I DO know. That’s why I can see it making sense if one party has way more assets than the other. But we’re like both you guys and Hillary - everything that we have, we have built together.
Angella | May 26th, 2009 at 3:08 pm
No, we don’t have one. Like you guys, it never even made it on the radar. We’re in this for life too.
Hannah | May 26th, 2009 at 4:54 pm
The only way I would have signed a prenup is if was one giving my student loan debt to my husband in the event of divorce.
slynnro | May 26th, 2009 at 6:13 pm
I agree with you on prenuptial agreements. It makes sense for the next movie star, but for me I dont think its needed or wanted in my marriage. We both started with not too much and we worked together to get this far. Even if, for some reason, it didnt work… It doesnt matter who makes what… If one makes more money and works more, the other may have been keeping the house or motivating the bread winner. We may not be this far ahead had we not had eachother, or may be further ahead. Who knows. My money is his, and his is mine.
Vitality4all6 | May 26th, 2009 at 6:49 pm
Yup. Totally do. He has to keep the kids and the debt and is never allowed to contact me ever again.
Mrs. Wilson | May 26th, 2009 at 9:13 pm
Hmm, I agree with everyone above. We both came in with nothing, so to split it all evenly makes the most sense.
However, I do have a good friend who comes from a wealthy family. Her parents insisted on a pre-nup, and were very involved in the arranging of her will. Basically, her husband gets none of the “family” money. It will all go to her and her children. They do specify all items gained during the marriage by her and her husband (through their jobs) is fair game, but not the inheritence. Her family has had some pretty nasty divorces, so I can see how this makes sense.
Mama Badger | May 27th, 2009 at 11:47 am
its funny. we are planning on getting married. he has nothing. i just have a house. but we are in Oregon which is not a community property state. so what is mine is mine.
i think if i was much older and getting married again with some grown children i would have a prenup to make sure they inherited what i wanted them to get.
otherwise it only makes sense for the very rich. or those that live in california.
gwendolyn | May 27th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
I am not married, but was seriously thinking about it at a time when my assets were, er, enough for “him” to eye them with greed (which I’m pretty sure he was doing). His assets were a lot less. He would never have gone for a pre-nup, but I spent some time looking up our state laws to confirm that everything I brought into the marriage was mine if we broke up. Though, frankly, if someone is the type to go after a spouse’s separate property, they can figure out ways to do it while married. For this reason, I decided to keep as much as possible in my 401K, which would be hard for even a spouse to access.
I think my experience tainted me a bit. Previously I wouldn’t have really given the pre-nup idea a thought. I figured I’d never marry a guy I couldn’t trust - and I’m not fond of the idea of divorce - but now I feel that’s naive; and that if you don’t protect your assets (assuming you have any), you might as well write them off as charity up front, so you don’t feel hurt when the spouse lays claims on them.
SKL | May 28th, 2009 at 3:11 pm
Cool story you got here. I’d like to read a bit more about that matter.
StephanJade | October 21st, 2009 at 3:47 pm