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I'm Britt. I work full time as a mom, wife, blogger and salesperson with a fancy management title. And I'm Robyn. I work as a project manager and between corporate meetings manage to cook a home-made meal every day. This blog is about our experiences of juggling full-time work with family.

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The meeting mistake

Categories: office life

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In October, I took an advanced 2-day course on Effective Meeting Management.  In the first hour of the course, the instructor gave some shocking statistics:

  • 91% of people are mentally distracted during a meeting
  • 96% have intentionally missed all or part of a meeting
  • 73% do other work while attending a meeting
  • 39% sleep!

While the rest of the course was your typical meeting class filled with agendas, value messaging, asking probing questions to keep your participants engaged, and dealing with those difficult people who seem to think it’s their job to constantly ruffle your feathers, I learned everything I needed to with those statistics.

We are over scheduled with too many meetings that provide too little value.

I work for a large Fortune 50 company.  It’s a global enterprise.  There’s the guy in India for Order Administration.  A Sales Manager is in Sacramento.  There’s a reporting expert in a teeny town in Maine and a developer in London.  Living in the Bay Area that results in lots of early morning meetings for me with my afternoons open to get as much work done before I leave to pick up my son from school.  While I’ve gotten used to the schedule of mornings packed with meetings, I’ve never gotten over the sheer volume of meetings that take place at this company. 

In my role as a Senior Program Manager, I’m either doing one of two things.  Either I’m in a meeting or I’m performing my assigned tasks that are a result of a meeting.  In my typical day, I have between two to four hours of meetings.  Occasionally, like last week when we were achieving a major milestone in two separate projects, I spent two full days on the phone tying up loose end, getting up to the minute status reports, and working with a dozen people to make sure that we had everything we needed to go live with our new processes.  It was exciting.  It was hard work.  And it was over-kill.

It’s as if people can’t make a decision unless there are 15 other people on the line.

So over the last month, it’s been my goal to schedule fewer meetings.  I’m sending slightly more email. I’m following up with impromptu phone calls with individuals.  Instead of scheduling a meeting with 10 people where only 1 person talks, I’m call that one person to talk just to her.  I’m making sure that every meeting has a follow-up email with detailed action items and due dates so that everyone stays accountable. 

When people show up to my meetings, I want them to know that I’ve picked the forum because it’s the best way to accomplish our goals rather than getting caught up in the culture of more meetings.  I expect them to be engaged because I wouldn’t have invited them if their opinion or expertise didn’t matter.

And if I ever find out that someone has been SLEEPING during one of meetings, it won’t matter that they’re in India or London or Maine.  I’m pretty sure that I can still open a can of whoop ass virtually.

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5 comments so far...

  • Check out Pat Lencioni’s “Death By Meeting” - it’s a great book about how to structure corporate culture around the dreaded “meeting” and how to tackle them successfully.

    whall  |  November 23rd, 2009 at 8:21 am

  • I used to work for a company that required a morning meeting and an end of day meeting every single day. No matter what. It was beyond infuriating.

    Miss Britt  |  November 23rd, 2009 at 8:33 am

  • I counted up all the regularly-scheduled BS meetings at my previous job, and it was over 20 per month. And these were just internal meetings where most of the people had nothing to add but had to listen to a few blow-hards talking about what they claim they’re going to accomplish someday. (And yes, I was frequently late for these meetings, which were usually scheduled at 7:30 or 8am.) After I complained, they eliminated/consolidated some of the meetings, but then more were added. This was so burdensome because when added to the other administrative crap we had to do, it took up literally half of the normal work week. And we were supposed to be like 70% billable, so you can do the math. If they scheduled the meetings for, say, 9pm (which would be fine for me), people would have felt like this was an imposition, but why didn’t more people feel that way at 8am? (I mean, if you take up half of my work day, obviously I’m stuck working all night anyway.) Well, probably because they were getting a nap or getting other work done during the 8am meetings!

    Some people don’t communicate as well in writing / don’t receive as well by reading. They need that face-to-face. Which is fine, as long as it’s a substantive discussion.

    On the other hand, we have numerous weekly client meetings (conference calls) where there are as many as 20 people on the line, but it’s important because every change needs the approval of all the parties (multi-layer financing can involve a lot of parties). There is no way we could move forward if all the parties (and their attorneys / accountants) weren’t on the phone to understand certain proposals, etc. So I really don’t mind any number of client calls, as long as my participation is relevant.

    SKL  |  November 23rd, 2009 at 9:00 am

  • I used to have to attend a daily news meeting during which we all read out loud sections of a document that we all had virtual access to. The entire point of the meeting was the pick up photocopies of sections of the same document, sit down, and read them out loud to one another. It killed me.

    Lylah  |  November 23rd, 2009 at 1:24 pm

  • Whall - I’ll have to check it out. Has anyone written a “death by powerpoint” book? People sure do love the powerpoint presentation.

    Britt - my spouse once had a manager that scheduled 4pm meetings the Friday before any long weekend. I think it’s real jerk-y for a boss to have such crazy meeting times just to make sure “people are working.”

    SKL - Client meetings are, of course, different. My “customers” are all internal employees or contractors. There is nothing worse than being in a face-to-face meeting that is truly a waste of your time.

    Lylah - LMAO! I once had a manager who would read a section out of the Employee Handbook at every meeting. :)

    Thanks all for commenting!
    Robyn

    robynroark  |  November 23rd, 2009 at 4:07 pm

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