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I Am Absolutely Disgusted

I am serving as the local PTA Treasurer for the current school year. Upon taking over the books, I quickly discovered that things were not always done appropriately. I looked at some information provided on the national PTA's web site and used that along with input from the Executive Board (Principal, PTA Officers, and Chairpersons) to try to come up with suggestions for Treasury procedures.


Talk about resistance to change - whew!


Long story short, our PTA seems to be controlled by a HorridUberGossiper (the FundRaising Chairperson) who literally hates me. The speed of darkness travels faster than the speed of light so....She has a few of the more vocal members convinced that I am not doing my job, despite the fact that - unlike the previous Treasurer (her friend!) - I have been present at each and every meeting and provided a very nicely formatted Treasury report with my contact info @ the bottom) to each and every attendee. (This has not been the level of diligence they are used to for sure.) I also undertook the long and semi complicated process of getting us our Tax Exempt Certificate for shopping tax free, and I am keeping the group up to speed on the new IRS filing requirements that are coming soon.


Incidences more attributable to lack of communication and poor group dynamics are squarely blamed on me amongst members of "the clique". One example is this: Another PTA Officer sent me a rther lengthy email with a few action items for me in it. The very last line was "Oh by the way, can you bring the check book to Event ABC for an on the spot payment to a vendor." Well, I missed that last statement and showed up to the event without the checkbook. I was there the entire time though. The President came up to me and asked me if I happened to have the checkbook. I stated "Of course not-LOL-That thing has 100 + blank checks in it and we are in a gymnasium with at least 150 people." I did not put two and two together.... I sat at a table alone, watching my son participate in the games & activities, eating pizza, and drinking juice unaware of what was happening at another table: Rather than coming over and saying "Hey-can you run back home and get a blank check? We need to pay ABC right now..." (My house is so close to school - my back yard overlooks the playground.) The President had apparently reported my response to her nondescript question and the HorridUberGossiper and Minions sat around talking about how much I suck and getting more and more mad that "someone" had to "pull money out of their pocket" to pay the vendor. (This person was reimbursed with cash during the event though...)


The HorridUberGossiper has told everyone that I suck yet I have paid two invoices / items from the last school year which her buddy the previous Treasurer - if she was on top of things - should have paid long ago. I also found out that the previous Treasurer (her friend!) allowed her to make deposits whenever she was "too busy" to do it.  


At the last meeting, a Minion actually yelled at me that I should quit because I can't do my job. She accused me of a few things: one - Allowing money to "sit" in her house. When I told her that I didn't even know she had any PTA money and asked her why she did not contact me so we could meet up to get the money turned in, she replied that I should have known she had the money and that she didn't bother calling me because I was out of town. She stated that during my five days of travel I should have designated someone to perform the Treasury duties. It was clear that she had been properly primed by the HorridUberGossiper


The HorridUberGossiper brought her spouse to this meeting and he proceded to burn daylight by telling me about his Internet Research and his conclusions about what my responsibilities as Treasurer are. I'll pause here to note that homeboy has not been to a single PTA meeting this entire school year. I'll also pause here to note that a few deposits and a check for over $3K was written without my authorization recently because the HorridUberGossiper decided that she didn't want to deal with me at the moment and she is really good friends with the PTA President who went to the bank and performed these actions on her behalf and who also happens to work for the Principal / the school checking identification for visitors @ the front desk.


Now I am ready to call it quits. May / June would be the new election; however, I feel that I will not have any mental peace until I disassociate myself from these folks. Truthfully, this organization does very little in terms of influencing the budget at the county level or influencing the school's curriculum-the things which affect our children's education directly. We basically hold fund raisers and then turn money over to the Principal for what she deems is important.


Someone at the state level PTA has been made aware of what is taking place and we (the Executive Board: Principal, PTA Officers, and Chairpersons) are supposed to get together soon and hash this out. I am somewhat convinced that the gossiping and non-communication will continue amongst the general members regardless of whatever happens in that room. Historically speaking, the HorridUberGossiper and her spouse were partially responsible for a debacle two years ago when the Treasurer at the time was accused of wrongdoing, the President was pushed out amid race-related accusations, and the PTA had to be reconstituted.


What say you ladies - should I give up now or ride it out? I am inclined to find an appropriate moment to extricate myself because I actually had a headache thinking about all of this garbage last night. Also-the monthly meetings usually end an hour (or less) before my 6 year old's bed time and he is pissed that he doesn't get much wind down time afterwards.










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Whew!


Last night was the Executive Board meeting with the District Director.


The District Director was on the side of having two people count the funds as were several other people at the meeting.


But-once again H.U.G. advocated very strongly for NOT having two people count the funds before turning them in to the Treasurer. The Principal and Vice Principal were also on the side of NOT "requiring" two people count funds. (It should be "optional"!) This is inspite of the fact that their hindquarters are NOT on the line in the event of missing money. And, I don't know what planet they live on where financial procedures designed to safeguard public money are "optional".


The bigmouthed H. U. G. groupy who called for my head at previous meetings fired up her unfounded accusation machine yet again: I had let her check remained uncashed for "SEVEN WEEKS" and allowed money to "sit" in her house....well, I prepraed a spreadsheet which clearly showed she was telling tall tales. It listed dates of receipt as compared with deposit dates. My average time was just over nine days. I also listed on the sheet an occasion where H.U.G. held onto money for FORTY SIX DAYS before turning it over to me. Could her check have been in that stack? I wonder....(((sarcasm))) Also, she couldn't explain why she did not call me directly to turn the money over to me.


In the end, the motion for two counters was voted down, but another motion that I came up with as an alternative was voted in: The Chairperson will affirm the amt of the funds prior to turning them over to the Treasurer. What this does is forces the original person (not necessarily the Chair) count the money and THEN the Chair counts the money. Unfortunately-sometimes it will only be the Chair. Which brings me to my next point:


Since the two person counting system is not "required" and it can be done sometimes and not done sometimes. I do not feel comfortable with this and immediately decided I would resign.


We worked on agreed on a few other procedures and then we had to table the rest of the discussion because it was after 9:30 p.m.


I am currently working on obtaining certified copies of the Books and contacting the state PTA for my resignation.

oh my word!!! did you quit?
what's going on? they should really follow some sort of procedure right? what about meeting minutes? do those state anywhere what's happening between you and Pres and Uber Gossiper?
Obviously your beauty, intelligence, and superior organization make H.U.G nervous. Memorize this, repeat when necessary. ;-) Don't compromise your values, but let this nonsense slide right off you.
Uhura  26th Feb
Good point Pammy.



On a visit to the bank yesterday, a customer service person told me that - despite the fact that our organization requires two signatures on the checks we write- bank policy is that anyone on the signature card may come into the bank at any time to make withdrawls...just like anyone can go in and make deposits if they have the acct number. The rep provided me with several copies of the policy which I plan to use @ the upcoming meeting. She also explained that "those responsible for the account" would be held liable in the event of an overdraft or any other wackiness. The sticky part is identifying "those responsble"-Is it the current year officers, the folks who originally set up the account as a "business account", or the folks who are on the Resolution Document?



This information is significant because of the current dynamic at play within the organization--->



HorridUberGossiper (hereafter referred to as H. U. G.) REFUSED to meet me to turn in money to me a few weeks ago: There is an open and ugly dispute about having 2 PTA members count and sign off on money before it's turned in to me for deposit. (She is vehemently opposed because it can be an "inconvenience". I, of course, am strongly for it.




My view on it is this: Three PTA members (the two who count plus the Treasurer) means extra protection for the organization against funny business and even the apperance of funny business.) Well, we were speaking on the phone & she wanted to meet with me on a Friday. Truthfully, Sat or Sun is best for me but I agreed to meet and I said that I figured she would not have had time to get a second counter, so I arranged for another PTA member- who also had money to turn in- to come to my house @ the same time. She could be her second counter and vice versa if needed. Well, H. U. G. WENT OFF. She began to argue about the need for a second counter. (There's NO need, damn you!!)



I was at work so when she used profanity during the convo, I hung the phone up. I work at a place where they record! I immediately called the Vice Pres and explained what happened. The VP offered to do a conference call. It was during that call that H. U. G. stated that she would NOT be meeting me to turn in the money "on principle". The VP couldn't believe it and asked her to repeat what she said-LOL!Even though this was " a lot of casah" and she wanted it out of her possession ASAP, she felt that a second counter is not needed and she will not be meeting me and that's that.




Next thing I hear, the PRESIDENT (her friend) went into the bank that Saturday and made three deposits of varying amounts. (But wait-I was prepared to accept and deposit that money on Friday!)




Plus the following Monday, the President went BACK INTO the bank and got a check for over $3,000!!! I am thinking that particular action is connected to this: Around this same time, H. U. G. requested a check from me to pay a vendor but she did not know the amt and was supposed to get back to me asap with that info. She needed the check by the following Wednesday for an on the spot vendor payment at an event. After the "argument" we had, I still followed up with her via email about the check.("'I'm ready to write the check asap so you'll have it by Wednesday-pls tell me the amt...") I guess H. U. G. convinced her friend, the President, that the organization no longer had to go to the Treasurer for bank transactions so she walked into the bank and got herself a > $3K check not knowing if we'd be OK on it and not pausing to tell H. U. G. "Well Uhura is seeking the info to write the check-why can't we just get a check from her like we're supposed to?"




Eventually I received an email from the President saying "the check has already been taken care of"....






OK folks....


Even if we give these two a "gimmie" and say: Well ANYONE can make a deposit, so we'll excuse that action (even though the incoming cash was not properly counted and documented)....what was her excuse for going back into the bank and getting that check???





In other words, I can not be connected to funny money business and expected to keep my security clearance can I?






There's also the matter of possible inappropriate / illegal use of a tax exempt certificate by the President. (sigh)






I am keepng pristine records to include emails. But I have to admit-these ladies are making me nervous here....That's why I am thinking disassociation is the way to go.
Pammy  26th Feb
Remember WHY you joined! I feel your frustration - really, BUT quitting is exactly what 'they' want you to do. Don't give them the satisfaction, perhaps pointing out the liability that the officers have for fiscal negligence might turn a few opinions; perhaps knowing that they PERSONALLY can be sued should in-proprieties be discovered - sometimes a little shared education can go a long way in this settting. June is not that far off - stick it out, stand your ground and don;t they have by-laws that delineate much of these issues - fall back to that if necessary. Hangin there, not re-upping rather than quiting says a lot about who you are. You believe firmly in what you are doing, firm enough to stick it out, and if they don't come around then decline another term with dignity and a head held high . . . and a letter of thanks to those with whom you served, noting that you are respectfully decline the opportunity to serve again as you are unwilling to do a disservice of putting the organization and its members in a liable position due to some archaic thinking and practices. Taking the high road doesn't mean you can't win the race ;)
Uhura  26th Feb
My plan is to attend the meeting with the state representative (it's this coming Monday night), present some absolutely wonderful ideas & suggestions for procedures about how to run the Treasury backed with documentation from the financial guide I found on their website, not advocate or argue too strongly one way or another for any one procedure or suggestion, present some great info about a free way the bank developed to pursue bad checks, use the overhead projector to demo a great spreadsheet I created which yields up tp the minute info about profits and expenses....and then quit.
Hang in there hon! If you're really passionate about what you're doing, then you should stand up and do what's right. I've been there, had very similar experiences. I want to be an example to my kids of standing up for what is right. Hope you're having a better day!
Susan  25th Feb
Wow! I don't even know what to say. It would be easy to tell you to "stick it out" as a lesson for your children, but at the same time, I don't think I'd put up with another minute of that. Worse, do they have enough gossip power to make your child's school days uncomfortable? I can't believe grown women would behave that way. Here's all I can suggest:
1) document everything (including nasty comments.) in a small notebook. Let the other officers watch you take notes as they spew out their nastiness. (I actually used this technique when I worked for two crazy bosses. They couldn't refute anything because I had it in writing. It also made them keep their mouth shut.) Plus this will help you at the state PTA meeting.
2) Attend the meeting with the state PTA. Bring your notes just in case. They are likely more than aware of this monster's behavior. Hopefully-- eventually, it will catch up to her. Even if you quit, you have done your job to the best of your ability and let others know of this unacceptable behavior.
3) Quit--walk don't run. Let them see how they handle the job without a treasurer. No one needs to put up with such crap! Just be sure you take the highest road possible, so they have nothing to stand on when they complain about you.
4) Watch your back just in case their inappropriate behavior continues or spills onto your children.

Good luck. Very sad
Do you have any allies? The principal, a teacher, anyone? I don't know enough about the dynamics in your school. But my gut tells me that I would quit, BUT that I would deserve to document my reasons to someone who's more impartial, less...uh...I can't find a polite word... ;-) - Paula. GL!!
Uhura  25th Feb
Mandy: LOL!
I have no idea what to tell you in terms of your decision. I do know that I'm quiet frightened that the craptasticness of high school continues in adulthood only with larger responsibilities. I'd run screaming.
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