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What would you do if you attended a girl scout camp and the moms in charge (about 8 moms stayed over night) spent the evening outside drinking? Is this common? acceptable? What if they were rowdy (but not in view of the children)? What if you weren' t really aware of who or how much drinking went on because you were inside watching the kids.

Asked by Susan , 27th Apr Answer this now »
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Susan  30th Apr
Thanks for all the help. Two significant mothers acknowledged and apologized for their behavior. Sadly for all, a sad light was shed on my daughters future experiences. Please to all moms--keep in mind how important it is that we speak up for the safety of our children. Even if you think it is too late.


I would contact your local GS council to find out their specific policy regarding alcohol at events. Being a leader, I looked it up in "Safety Wise" (the book detailing basic rules for everyone). It says "Alcohol is the most abused drug among youth in the United States...Alcohol is not appropriate at girl activities." It goes on to say that GS councils may have their own policies that further outline behavior guidelines.

GS events are not an appropriate place to drink. You never know what the girls see or hear and it could set a bad example for them. Although I'm always with my girls at events, I wouldn't want them to be with adults who have been drinking, regardless of how much they consumed.
Susan  28th Apr
I agree. I will either remove her from the troop next year or ALWAYS be present. As for turning the troop leaders in, I wouldnt be able to say who imbibed or didnt. Plus, I would speak with those responsible first. Not much fun.
Bottom line for me is the adults were CHAPERONING. To me this entails being a responsible,sober grown up --other parents have entrusted their childrens care and well being to the chaperones. Imbibin in moderation is irresponsible in a situation like this. It's a children's camp, not mommy happy hour! I'd be on the phone to the local council associated with the camp out and report it. Completely unacceptable! I'm all for hanging out and having drinks (trust me on this one!), but only when safe and appropriate..and this situation was not the appropriate place to be indulging.
Kate  28th Apr
wow, I wouldn’t be comfortable with that at all either - and i am pretty chill about most things and not opposed to a few drinks when appropriate (appropriate being the key word there)! i would say definitely check the scouting rules/guidelines like MaryP said. This could help make it an easier discussion to say 'hey last time was fun, but i found out that it's against the rules and we don’t want our girls kicked out for our actions' or whatever.
to me, scouting is supposed to be about the kids with the adults as the role model. If i were a mother who did not attend and i found out - you can better believe my child would not be going unless i was going with her.
MaryP  28th Apr
Did they drink to excess? Did they behave inappropriately? If the answer to both those questions is no, then there's less to worry about. The concern is always that someone won't behave, will drink to excess, will behave badly and alarm the children, or be incapable of responding appropriately to a situation.

It should be obvious that, if you're in a situation where a child would have to be driven anywhere (to get medical care, say), that EVERYONE should limit themselves to whatever the limits of the jurisdiction. Here, for example, the safe driving blood alcohol level is .08%, which, for me, translates into two glasses of wine. Being cautious with these things, I never drive if I've had more than one, so in that situation, I'd keep it to one glass.

Thing is, can you know that everyone will limit themselves accordingly? The answer to that is likely "no", so it's probably wiser to err on the side of caution and say 'no alcohol'.

I'd be surprised if the Scouting movement doesn't have guidelines on this -- and my bet would be they're not supposed to drink while in a supervisory capacity. That could be your gracious way out: check the standards and then inform the group.
Susan  27th Apr
Oh, to clarify-- the lodge was a single floor, single unit, for the troop only (not a hotel lodge).
Susan  27th Apr
yes the moms were in the yard just outside the lodge. Im more concerned about an emergency situation or if it turned bad enough for kids to be observent of this. I chose to limit myself to less than a 1/2 a glass of wine throughout the evening after the children were in the lodge.

But what if none of the moms had been responsible? I think if my daughter was in their care without me being there, I'd be out of control angry at anything beyond a glass or two of wine from the grown ups in charge.
Well, I would for one never leave my kids in a hotel unattended. Were the moms just outside the doorway? Could they see where their children were staying? They were a lucky group of moms to have you as the designated watcher.

I can't say I wouldn't have a drink with them but maybe just one and I would probably do the same as you. I would not worry about "how" rowdy if I didn't see anything myself and no one got hurt.

I would probably discuss my concerns before the next trip.

Can't say it is common but I doubt it is uncommon.
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