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  • Check this email out that I rec'd today


    I think this is thought provoking.....




    Ponder the following:

    What if the Obamas had paraded five children across the stage, including a three month old infant and an unwed, pregnant teenage daughter?

    What if John McCain was a former president of the Harvard Law Review?

    What if Barack Obama finished fifth from the bottom of his graduating class?

    What if McCain had only married once, and Obama was a divorcee?

    What if Obama was the candidate who left his first wife after a severe disfiguring car accident, when she no longer measured up to his standards?

    What if Obama had met his second wife in a bar and had a long affair while he was still married?

    What if Michelle Obama was the wife who not only became addicted to pain killers but also acquired them illegally through her charitable organization?

    What if Cindy McCain graduated from Harvard?

    What if Obama had been a member of the Keating Five?
    (The Keating Five were five United States Senators accused of corruption in 1989, igniting a major political scandal as part of the larger Savings and Loan crisis of the late 1980s and early 1990s.)

    What if McCain was a charismatic, eloquent speaker?

    What if Obama couldn't read from a teleprompter?

    What if Obama was the one who had military experience that included discipline problems and a record of crashing seven planes?

    What if Obama was the one who was known to display publicly, on many occasions, a serious anger management problem?

    What if Michelle Obama's family had made their money from beer distribution?

    What if the Obamas had adopted a white child?

    You could easily add to this list. If these questions reflected reality, do you really believe the election numbers would be as close as they are?

    This is what racism does. It covers up, rationalizes and minimizes positive qualities in one candidate and emphasizes negative qualities in another when there is a color difference.

    Educational Background:

    Barack Obama:
    Columbia University - B.A. Political Science with a Specialization in International Relations.
    Harvard - Juris Doctor (J.D.) Magna Cum Laude

    Joseph Biden:
    University of Delaware - B.A. in History and B.A. in Political Science.
    Syracuse University College of Law - Juris Doctor (J.D.)

    vs.

    John McCain:
    United States Naval Academy - Class rank: 894 of 899

    Sarah Palin:
    Hawaii Pacific University - 1 semester
    North Idaho College - 2 semesters - general study
    University of Idaho - 2 semesters - journalism
    Matanuska-Susitna College - 1 semester
    University of Idaho - 3 semesters - B.A. in Journalism

    Education isn't everything, but this is about the two highest offices in the land as well as our standing in the world. You make the call.






    Flag as inappropriate by Kim Begnaud on 16th October 2008

  • Kim,
    After seeing where you're from, I know you understand fully who it is/was. As I've said before, I'm an independant. I don't and won't claim either party. My husband is a moderate Republican, but when asked, he will tell people he's a Druid!

    I voted for that person 2x and after that fiasco at the Breaks, I wasn't going to be fooled again. I should have known better after he went on national TV (the Today show) and called his WHOLE state workforce lazy, then tried to privatize everything he could. We found a LOT of smoke and mirrors that (no pun intended here) Jo-6-pack couldn't see through. In fact, Virginia had the chance to have its first female governor and she blew it cause she wouldn't leave and go "press the flesh", as my daddy used to call it. She was unmarried (still is, in fact), and his campaign circulated rumors about a "relationship" between her and Patsy Cornwell (who ended up supporting him, not her).

    My father was a devote Republican, a staunch member of the NRA, but he was also pro-choice and pro-ERA. Toward the end of his life, he lamented that the Party would end up destroying itself as long as it continued to pander to ultra-conservatives. He died in 99 and looks like maybe he was right.



    Flag as inappropriate by JDaffron on 15th October 2008

  • SKL, unfortunately, it IS the McCain/Palin camp who are proliferating the rhetoric in certain crowds of people. In an article today, http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27188680/, a NYT's poll shows that the negative attacks have failed with voters because MP haven't addressed issues, only participated in personal attacks. People are just plain tired of that crap. The only ones taking any stock to it are those who aren't really educated enough to see it for what it is. McCain himself was booed by his own crowd when he rebutted a woman who called Obama an Arab, and called him a decent man. Certain crowds have been stirred up to shout "terrorist" and "kill him." Now, regardless of idological beliefs, a respectable candidate, regardless of party preference, does NOT condone or support this kind of ignorant rhetoric nor particapte in ANY manner regarding it. Funny, isn't it, about the Ayers controversy, considering that Mr. Ayers has received money from a conservative Republican foundation AND that said foundation heads the board that both men sat on. However, spin doctors, being what they are, don't dare bring that out.

    There's bias on BOTH sides. However, considering that loose cannons with absolutely NO SENSE that God gave a flea out there, to deliberately do what the M/P group does with these groups, is, imho, the same as yelling "fire" in a crowded room.

    I also found this on MSNBC's site today and found it fascinating:
    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/13/us/politics/13martin.html
    The main thing is that the guy behind all this KNOWS the stuff is NOT true, but doesn't give a flying rat's behind. Now, I'm sorry, but think how many fools have taken this crap to heart and you absolutely HAVE to understand WHY I have a problem with what the M/P group is doing with certain groups of people.

    Flag as inappropriate by JDaffron on 15th October 2008

  • Wow,
    Anybody watch Keith Oberman on MSNBC Tuesday Night?
    JDaffron, I remember that cowboy hat golden boy with his feet on a desk........your talking about. Yes and you are very correct they play on people. But I had to explain to my very smart 11yr old son what and why this was all being said. He sat quietly wheels a turning and said "mom what if they do what they say, would Mr McCain feel bad?" Nice hunh....

    Flag as inappropriate by Kim Begnaud on 15th October 2008

  • It's on both sides. Why is this question so one-sided?

    Flag as inappropriate by SKL on 15th October 2008

  • Personally, I'm not surprised by the level of anger and racism out there, but I'm horrified that the candidates haven't addressed the comments and outbursts as they happen.

    Flag as inappropriate by Lylah M. Alphonse on 13th October 2008

  • A prime example of the dangerous rheteroic that's being handled is here (among other places): http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27130171

    Now, to give equal due, extremism cuts both ways and either is no worse or better than the other. But deliberately inflaming and inciting a crowd whose participants aren't exactly noted for being educated or knowledgable (aka, not exactly having both oars in the water in the first place) is, imho, akin to yelling "fire" in a crowded room. And those who enable and condone it are as guilty as those who do it. And they should be willing to shoulder the blame should someone take them up on what they want them to do. If not, they're total hypocrites.

    Course, that's just MHO.

    Flag as inappropriate by JDaffron on 12th October 2008

  • JDaffron- You are so right...will they take any responsibility if anything bad happens from what they
    started ? I doubt it. Racism is still alive in the great USA....it is just hidden below the surface. But thank
    God that not all people are ...their are people that do not judge people by the color of their skin. Wouldn't it be so nice to live in a world where people were really treated equal. What a nice dream. I want to live in that world.

    Flag as inappropriate by eileen b on 11th October 2008

  • I think the one thing that no one has mentioned is "mob mentality" or "mob IQ" in all of this. This election is unprecedented in history. Accordingly, unfortuately because of our country's history, racism can, will, and does rear its ugly head in places and in certain types of people. One of my biggest fears is that should Obama be elected, there WILL be at least 1, if not multiple attempts on his life, simply because of race. We might not ever hear of those that have been foiled, but there are those groups in this country who, because of sheer ignorance, stupidity, and hatred, decide to eliminate what they preceive as a "threat." Accordingly, the language recently displayed with certain types of crowds plays to the lowest element who aren't educated enough to understand that they're being played. In our state, Virginia, a former GOP senator found out the hard way that "foot in mouth disease" and playing to the ignorant can and does spell disaster. HE was supposidly the "golden boy" who was rumored to be the next GOP candidate for President. That is until he showed himself for the "Bubba" he really was to a group of people who, unfortunately, aren't noted for education. Considering that I'm originally from the area he was in at the time of his stupidity, I was personally insulted that he felt he had to do what he did and considering that my dad's family were big GOP supporters, I felt doubly ashamed to even be associated with that kind of tactics.

    We're 3 weeks out and the election is starting to get down and dirty. However, if you look back in history, it's been FAR worse. Thing was, back then, it wasn't instantanous.

    My question to the McCain handlers would be this - you encourage the candidates to stir up the ignorance. Are you willing to take the full blame IF someone were to act because of your tactics? And with those who are mentally unbalanced and/or ignorant, it's a VERY real possiblity.

    Flag as inappropriate by JDaffron on 11th October 2008

  • Yes they should do all they can to control the personal attacks in their rallies. The worst thing is that they
    encouraged it in the beginning. Now it has gotten way out of control. They Booed McCain today when he
    tried to settle them down ( on Yahoo) So even he has lost control of what they have started. To me it is not
    a good way to run a campaign. It encourages hatred...a bad thing..something we do not need. If if changes it would be a nice thing..but I won't keep my fingers crossed waiting.

    Flag as inappropriate by eileen b on 11th October 2008

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